August 5th, 2005

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  • uhlrik

Storytelling/Storyteller alternates settings.

As requested by creativedv8tion, here are a couple of links.

Fantasy Storytelling: This is one possible mod for using the nWoD system's base structure in a fantasy context. I don't agree with all of their design decisions and have had several 'spirited' debates with at least one of its major contributors about a number of systemic and mechanical things relating to the Storytelling system in general and fantasy as well over at the White Wolf Fora, but here is their personal take on it and it's definitely worth at least a look over. I may be opinionated and arrogant, but if everyone is entitled to my opinion, it's only fair to let them have their own as well. I'll eventually do my own version of a full generic nWoD fantasy mod, but I'm already working on several other mods for things.

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I've been having this discussion with my GM lately, and I wanted to get wider input. I am thinking that I can boil GMing style into 2 basic styles. I realize this is a broad generalization, and that some GMs will mix these 2 version, or alternate, but I wonder if the basic styles are none the less accurate.

1) GMing a game to support the setting
2) GMing a game to support the story

Type 1 is characterized as follows:
-Let the chips fall where they may. NPCs have stats, the world has a set of standards, the places, people, behaviours, and world systems in general follow logical arrangements, and don't exist for any further reason than it makes sense. The concept of anti-climactic doesn't exist. If you are lucky to meet the main villain in the first few minutes, ok, if you never find him, ok, if you kill him with a lucky critical, ok, whatever. The setting is set up, the pieces are put into place, and then you hit go. The rules of the game should be consistent. House rules are fine, but they are decided on, and at the end of the day, the consistency of those rules are respected, impartially for players and non-players alike. NPCs grow and get xp like players, to keep them growing in a fair and consistent manner (they might get more or less xp, but they still obey the same rules as anyone else). NPCs can't generally do things contradict the same rules players are subject to.

Type 2 is characterized as follows:
-You've seen the movies, read books, you know how a "story" runs. Villains behave in certain ways. Villains can be beaten, but only at the climactic moment, in a memorable way. Mood, theme, concept governs the expected flow of the game. Games have genres that must be respected. Vampire will be dark, moody, gothic, Seventh sea will be dramatic and flashy. Players can't accomplish big things without some effort, but they can accomplish it. Their goal is never impossible, but also generally not easy. Generally, the climax will not be thwarted. Game rules are generally more flexible. Sometimes NPCs are not subject to the same rules as players...depending on dramatic appropriateness. The rules that players are subject to can also be flexed as the scene demands. GM fiat is an accepted means to an end (though should be used sparingly) if it furthers the dramatic flow of the story. GM may sometimes gently nudge players back towards the expected flow of the story. The story does not have to end, and the climax may well set you on the path of a bigger story, but the dramatic license continues to exist.

Now I realize, it's not type 1 or type 2, and never the two shall meet. Type 1 will still have a plot in mind, will still have NPCs that are interesting, maybe giving them interesting connections to the players. Type 1 will describe things in vivid ways that capture the imagination. Type 2 must still respect the dramatic tension, and realizes that a player must actually risk failure in order to feel that tension. The player that trys to jump a chasm, must genuinely risk falling in order to feel trepidation at trying it, even though we know in the stories, the hero won't fall, though it may get close. Type 2 can't go so far as the players get apathetic because they see that the story is controlling their characters not them. Ultimately, a successful game will fall in between these 2 types, not at either pole.

But how far. Some like staying as close as possible to type 1, some to type 2. Some will vary depending on game. For instance Call of Cthulhu is probably far more often done in the type 2 mold. Something like cyberpunk might be more frequenly type 1. Some GMs will stick with 1 style of the other almost exclusively though.

Personally, I prefer type 2, with enough type 1 that I feel I am still controlling my character. However, since I enjoy the story, I am likely to play my character in such a way as they fit into the story. I've read fantasy books, I have seen movies, I have imagined stories. I like the drama, I like the struggle, I like the climax, I like the poetic license of it all. The hero does not defeat the villain by page 5. Nor does he abandon the story either, not unless something pulls him back. The book simply doesn't finish that soon. Type 2 does sometimes require more mature players. You need players that will make characters that also fit the theme, that won't mind when the setting is leaning on them a bit. The GM must be fair, but the players must roll with things that might seem unfair to a type 1 players. Your big magic sword got stolen. In type 2, the GM made it happen for a dramatic reason, and may or may not give the chance to get it back, again in due course with the story, and the player knows that, and will roll with it.

  • mbtm

Taking the kids beyond the Basic Set (v 3.5 DnD)

So I'm trying to plan ahead...just in case.

If I choose to take the kids beyond the Basic Set, what would be the best way to do that?

Should I keep the characters simplistic like in the Basic Set, or "evolve" them into normal characters with a full set of skills after they reach 3rd level?

I've thought about taking them through some pre-generated adventures that are focused on dungeon crawling (The Sunless Citadel and The Forge of Fury) after they reach 3rd level.

Any thoughts on this?

7th seas suggestions sought

one of my players has recently acquired a 3 point background "true identity" which he doesnt want to know or have any input into - he wants to discover it during teh game along with teh rest of the players. Any suggestions for what could be fun/entertaining/just plain nasty?

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